The Q3 2023 Twitter Migration report is out: https://www.deweysquare.com/digital/twitter-migration-report/
It shows Nostr is holding steady after Threads tsunami. Weβve got users, interest, and development but weβre stuck in a bitcoin / crypto echo chamber. The problem isnβt the tech directly so much as culture. How can we cultivate millions of communities with their own values and norms. Sure they can use lightning for payments, but mostly people wonβt be here because they believe in nostr or bitcoin. In fact for both to succeed we need folks who donβt care about the underlying tech at all.
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Mute lists, suggesting non-bitcoin topics. Itβll be hard for sure.
The problem is the tech. Why would people move to something new if the new thing isn't as polished as what they are used.
I subscribe to a lot of press sites (bots) that I found on nostr band. They stimulate discussion on topics other than Bitcoin and nostr because they report news on a variety of topics.
βThe Nostr platform, which our scans found holding a steady but small following as an X alternative, may be unknown to those who are not engaged in the cryptocurrency development communities. It is challenging to measure Nostr using web traffic because it's a decentralized social media platform. It's also debatable even inside the Nostr communities as to how to track Nostr from within the network in order to identify unique human accounts rather than spam or bots. We will keep watching the Nostr space, especially looking to see if it breaks out of its βcrypto nicheβ in which it now lives.β
The Developer Migration:
βAs Musk and Yaccarino continue to express the ambition that X will become a single βEverything Appβ β and moved in that direction by making it more difficult for outside developers to work with the platform β third-party application developers have moved to greener pastures.
In addition to this more developer-unfriendly environment, there is an increasing trend and interest by developers in the emerging βopen social webβ and developing βopen social protocolsβ such as ActivtyPub (which powers Mastodon), the AT Protocol (that powers Bluesky), and to a lesser extent the Nostr protocols.β
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"the problem is the culture" ... What?
#nostr culture is the best experience in social media and no I will not stop talking about Bitcoin
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the culture is a feature not a bug
Not entirely sure I agree. Tis early doors so bitcoiners and bitcoin discussion will naturally dominate. Given time varied interests and ppls will come to the space. The benefits of ownership and sovereignty will shine through
I agree here. We need diversity and also methods for people to create content streams that align with specific interests. Nostr = btc is fine for a starting place but it needs to be broader than that to go mainstream. Conversely we need nostr apps that are more than Twitter like timelines. Apps with private relays were cohorts of people can work on things with specific intent. We are building a nostr slack for that use case. Devs who want to help on this project are free to DM me anytime. We are also looking at a Reddit alternative with a beautiful UI where topics and communities of focus are easier to find and cultivate.
We have a difficult image problem to overcome. Most people on Bluesky who have heard of the Nostr think itβs full of Nazis and crypto bros. They usually block anyone who mentions it.
The typical defenders of freedoms...
funny )
Try this for diversity.
It has nothing to do with Bitcoin, Crypto or Nostr.
@Urzeitshop
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Happy to find you here, after your nostril vs blue sky interview
From a design point of view, a solution must be 10x its predecessor, or existing users won't migrate. Nostr is 10x for privacy lovers and those with something to lose; for others who care about comfort and ease of use, the duper mine effect of algorithmic social media, or the size of the audience, Nostr cannot appeal to them just yet.
I recently started this account to post insta/tiktok type viral videos. Trying to get more carried content on nostr.
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zap.stream could aspire to pick up twitch streamers, who want an alternative space. Things like that work well for normie onboarding. They might not be interested in the whole nostr thing per say, but things that work.
thanks for sharing this @rabble - I love how this topic has been close to your heart, and you have triggered many great inputs and ideas in this thread and over time as well. But more so, its really nice to see so many agreements and disagreements and people just debating about this openly without attacking anyone.
That's why I'm here trying to hold down the other side of conversations.
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To be clear. Thereβs nothing wrong with an enthusiastic bitcoiner community on nostr. In fact itβs really important to sustaining nostr. What Iβm saying is we need to make it easy for other kinds of communities to and find their space. Some people care about knitting or Brazilian Jitsu, coffee, or drag, or tons of other things. Think of all the subreddits.
Right now you join and see mostly people talking about bitcoin. We donβt make it easy to find the other people and content. The communities features help. Getting more kinds of content helps. Working on discovery helps. Making tools for enabling folks to enforce community boundaries helps like ability to opt in to shared mute / follow / content warnings.
And some kind of algorithms for finding and recommending content and people. We can solve this.
I donβt talk about Bitcoin, but Iβm just an idiot on Nostr that likes to have fun and I hope my engagement here brings a smile to some people π«‘π
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going to tokyo?
lightning for payments was a huge turn off for me. nothing said "closed minded" louder than use my money. I pay content creators on youtube, reddit, tiktok, likey, patreon, kofi, gumroad, IG, OF. no muss no fuss. first day.