Seeing so much LLM-related content on Nostr finally made me realize how leftists or other types of people must feel when they try to join but see so much Bitcoin stuff and adjacent stuff.
Doesn't matter who is right. Relay-based segregation is urgent and imperative.
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What even is an LLM? #asknostr 

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I’m here for a ai friendly community, not actually for the bitcoin.
Relay based feeds mattered from the start, and a fitting original interface design instead of Twitter layout copies.
We need forums, groups, digital places to talk, chat, interact, with peoples with same interests ...
nostr forums sound like a good idea.
Relays are the best integration point for building feeds. Generic clients that can display a feed from a single relay and reply via outbox do not have to concern themselves with the UX of building these feeds.. Jumble was a gamechanger and shows this model works well and is performant. RelayTools-android is modeled after this with more list and nip86 support.
Having a personal relay be your 'endpoint', gathering and computing this for you in the background is really nice. I've started modeling this in the lab, on a raspberry pi5 with strfry router.
The content is there, it's just drowned out by lots of noise, which can easily be filtered by hashtag curation and web of access.
Just look at wss://aquaticchickentheory.nostr1.com for an example of this working in the wild.
The relays act as layers or filters themselves and you can source those into another 'personal relay' where you build your own ultimate feed.
For example of a personal relay endpoint I am using github.com/relaytools/feedbuilder to construct an augmented follows+lists feed on my local network. It gathers everything I care about and I can read it directly without burdening my client with all these complex rules and connections.
So yeah, it's not only possible, it's the best way to nostr imo.
Thinking along the same lines.
Yes. For a lot of people, bitcoin is mostly related to scams of one kind or another, along with them being told it's a bubble that's about to burst. It's not something they encounter in their day to day life. I'd think it's nostr's biggest turnoff, and it's a problem Mastodon doesn't have.
Wait leftists have an issue with Bitcoin? I don't think there is political division in the bitcoin space.
Can you say more about what you're thoughts are in this direction? Like @cloud fodder I've been thinking in the direction of personal relays becoming the personalization layer, which I think has a lot of potential to solve multiple problems. This is just thought experiments for me so far, but it dovetails with things I'm actually building and I want to maximize my usefulness
Leftists use Bitcoin
Leftists don’t use bitcoin. Neither do women.

Leftists were the first to adopt bitcoin for activism purposes 🤔
Ai agents zapping on nostr in 02/26 was not on my bingo card though
careful, this line of thought can lead to deafening echo chambers..
Leftists are working on nostr and selling bitcoins ?
There are things happening that the people do not see ?
In bitcoin world you can buy and sell to communists, this is a crazy world.
All without say that fiat money is a shit that mantain the bitcoin world.
#CrazyWorld
Why does left/right leaning matter?
Also, why should this be solved through relay segregation, rather than shared follow lists, use of hashtags (and, if we ever get them working, Reddit-like communities)?
The basic follow functionality of Nostr is outbox-model-powered follow lists, that doesn't need to be solved.
But follow lists don't protect from reply spam, and they don't solve the need that some people have for seeing feeds of content from people they don't follow. Relay-based users and content curation and pubkey whitelisting do.
Segregated relays also don't protect from spam (not more than general-purpose ones).
The issue you mention seems about the global feed. I think it's almost bound to be shit, but it can be addressed via hashtags.
Segregation splits content flows and makes them workable, clients can mix them for the user. It doesn't stop spam it makes it easier to make a first step of narrowing things down.
Hashtags don't split the flow, they just help you track something you're interested in.
We're asking users to drink from the sewer (from the outsider perspective) and then telling them to use a filter straw.
Users need to be able to find the likeminded crowd as a starting point. then get to know people, pick and choose, find hashtags they want to pay attention to, etc. none of that is going to happen if the startingpoint is a firehose of people who are all about some thing that you don't vibe with. They're just going to leave.
Because Nostr is a protocol created and conceived by the far right.

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No, the issue here is *purely political*. The word "segregation" itself speaks volumes.

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What’a leftism got to do with Bitcoin?
Also, they have reddit and bluesky. Leftists can join here though. People here seem mostly neutral, but i guess neutral to a leftist means far right but that still doesn’t mean they can’t or shouldn’t use bitcoin.
No, unfortunately Nostr is a far-right protocol.

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Jack Dorsey gave $10 million to a project run by an anonymous dev — who turned out to be a follower of a fascist 'guru'
Twitter's cofounder Jack Dorsey personally gave $245,000 in crypto to a developer who's a follower and student of a well-known Brazilian fascist.
There’s no such thing as a “far right protocol” that’s not how it works.
In theory, yes, but in practice, no.
No not just in practice. Anyone can get an nsec/npub pair and start posting. It’s literally neutral
From the moment the lead developer states that "Nostr needs Nazis and racists", but *contradictorily* calls for the banning of Bluesky, yes, there is a very clear ideological bias.

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Jack Dorsey gave $10 million to a project run by an anonymous dev — who turned out to be a follower of a fascist 'guru'
Twitter's cofounder Jack Dorsey personally gave $245,000 in crypto to a developer who's a follower and student of a well-known Brazilian fascist.

As long as he is a white, heterosexual man, yes.


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Trans has nothing to do with sexuality or ethnicity. Sounds like you’re the racist bigot. But that’s ok. Nostr is an open protocol and everyone can be on here. Even racists and bigots or the 3 nazis that are still alive.
And on Bluesky, why not? That's fascism, and it seems like you only want freedom for your group.


Nostr and bitcoin are neutral. I want my enemies to be able to use both. I think bluesky is just laughable honestly.
O/
Não engana ninguém, coitado... burro demais.
Don't mix things up. Bitcoin and Nostr are neutral as protocols, but Nostr is a social network, and social networks are made up of people.
Três dias
People, not groyper trolls. Three days.
Oh, Tell me a little more about it?


Groyper and Incel. There are many of them here, more than on any other network. Are you new here?
It doesnt load. Perhaps here? @Z0 Corse
Ah, pensei que era outra pessoa. Sai daí Ishak.
Dont you recognize the mirror anymore?
Terzi, your victims go way beyond Ishak. Deal with them all.
Aliás, sua bio está bem contraditória. Corrija lá. Pai? Filha? "Eu sou o Pai", mas ao mesmo tempo ele "ele me assediou"? 🤣
Usando pronome masculino para pessoa trans? Vai lá, corrija. Aliás, seu jeito de escrever lembra muito o do Ishak, que coincidência...
You have three days. Off.
Three. Days.
Nunca vi alguém defender outra pessoa com tanto empenho e com tanta disposição para criar novas NSECs. Acho que nem o "próprio" Ishak teria. 🤣
Não se preocupe, a Luiza pediu para eu deixar o Bostr.
Querido, você leu a minha capa? A Luiza pediu para eu deixar o Bostr. Suas ameaças de tortura, assassinato e ocultação de cadáver já tem mais de 2 anos. Toma vergonha na cara. 3 dias é muito 🤣


Não há prisão, meu querido.
Lento.
Espera 3 dias não. Aliás, "Dusk"?? Que sacanagem.
Devagar.
3 dias é lento mesmo.
Cabeça de piroca.
Temos todo o tempo do mundo.
Lento.
Devagar.
Tchau. Eu não alimento mais trolls.
Se eu sou filho do Silvio Santos, porque assistirei e darei ibope para a Globo?
Vá à polícia.
P seu próprio bem.
Pois Rei do Gado
I don't see the problem.
If someone spams LLM nonsense all day long, like Calle, just unfollow...
We hear you at Dyne! planning next moves as we do have already a curated environment for human exchange, just needs landing on nostr in the form of relay based segregation. To the code!
There are many prominent bitcoin developers on Bluesky, as well as many people who simply *love* LLMs. Bostr is empty, it's a graveyard of accounts abandoned by the reactionary far-right itself.
Protocol-based segregation is urgent and imperative.