there will still be wars under a bitcoin standard
some will even be fought specifically for bitcoin related reasons
bitcoin doesnt fix this
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Marcus Tullius Cicero: 'The sinews of war are infinite money.' This was said more than 2000 years ago by maybe the greatest statesman of humanity. Donβt confuse credit out of thin air with hard money. Statism is a cuck disease, and you seem to be spreading it β to my utter surprise.
> Marcus Tullius Cicero
rome operated on a hard money standard and fought many wars
> Statism is a cuck disease, and you seem to be spreading it β to my utter surprise
nope
Inflation, which was already prevalent in the later stages of republican era when Cicero was around, eventually killed Rome in the next few hundred years. Chipping away coins, minting by mixing with other metals was common when the state needed to raise money without raising taxes on its citizens.
Do you not agree that centrally planned credit expansion facilitates financing for endless wars much more effectively than hard money standard would allow? Letβs not concentrate on outliers that are statistically irrelevant but try to remain objective in the assessment weβre putting forth.
> Do you not agree that centrally planned credit expansion facilitates financing for endless wars much more effectively than hard money standard would allow?
yes but it doesnt end war, just forces efficiency in conducting them
especially if the target is rich in resources and bitcoin
If you ignore scale and your definition of war shrinks to the level of homicide then sure it won't end.
i donβt think iβm the one stretching definitions here
If we're using the traditional meaning of the word, are you suggesting that nation states are capable of conducting efficient warfare?
People seem to forget there have been wars since way before fiat. Bitcoin doesntcm change this.
Nevermind the fact that they can easily step up their propaganda to make it seem like it is justified to buy/donate Bitcoin for war, or whatever.
War and violence have been in a historical downtrend even before fiat and bitcoin as well. Humanity has been moving towards more peaceful conflict resolution systems for millennia. current armed conflicts, lasting decades are a consequence of fiat systems "protecting the economy" from any crisis at any cost, than war is just signed off as a crisis, instead of bad political work.
Only the past 60 years or so. And in death counts, mainly. This is largely due to a few factors, but most importantly, we don't just line up accross from each other, run and kill one another. Technology, planes, bombs/missles, drones, satellites, radio and tv feeds, and even the Geneva Convention have added to this. The number of conflicts isnt really down globally, it rises and falls of course, but the number of deaths and scale of them is. For now....
USA has something like a $trillion budget deficit.
Large part of that is the Pentagon.
Where does that money come from if they can't just print it?
Ahh.
All the Zionist scum who have been zap farming with the "bitcoin will end war" bullshit all took their masks off yesterday
Odell used the invasion a sovereign nation as an excuse to give support to a zionist pedophile.
Bitcoin enables a mental and prespective change, were you can exit and not support wars. But americans like war since they believe they are better. It is about people changes, bitcoin just enables it.
You not staying very humble about wars, but defenetly stacking bullets lol
Wars to grab whatβs left, until Nothing is left.
I disagree.
But I will say that it depends on what you mean by fix it. I think the use of violence will be attempted under a bitcoin standard. I also believe it will be proven VERY penalizing for the perpetrator.
Under a bitcoin standard the financial cost for wars is not as easily obfuscated.
Fiat protects the economy in times of crisis, war being a crisis, allowing for wars to last far beyond any ideological justification has degrated beyond public support, since objectives are not ever reached to completion.
Making it expensive is the fix. Its not about suddenly everyone forgets that violence is a thing.. it just makes sure that the incentives for violence are very small compared to peaceful conflict resolution, in the short and long terms.
Bitcoin doesn't fix it, because it's not a bug, it's a feature.
You're such a loser for liking your own posts. You should be made fun of by everyone and disowned by your family.
Maybe so. Maybe not. Nobody knows.
please be the first one funding those "bitcoin wars" with your sats. If you have balls...
Are you trolling us?
Axiom of resistance
Bitcoin doesn't fix human nature.
Agree, but it does fix most problems..
Why conflict wouldnβt go to zero
Even in a fair world, humans still have:
Differing values. Competing visions of meaning. Identity and belief systems. Emotional responses: fear, pride, grief, love.
These produce friction, not war.
The key difference is this: Conflict without scarcity does not require violence. It becomes: Negotiation. Separation rather than domination. Voluntary association instead of forced unity. Think less war, more boundary-setting.
The quiet truth: A world without war isnβt one without disagreement. Itβs one without mechanisms that turn disagreement into mass violence. When systems stop feeding fear, scarcity, and domination; human nature doesnβt become perfectβ¦ but it becomes manageable, relational, and sane.
(AI effectively helping articulate hope for a better future)
Thanks for the AI slop. Please try doing it yourself next time.
Even in a bitcoin world, people will find ways to print money. Bitcoin fixes a lot of problems, but people are incredibly good at making new problems.
It does incentives better behavior.
Fix the money, fix [many problems but not all of them in] the world
doesnt have the same ring to it eh
Too bearish
I think the argument that this had something to do with the election machinery in Venezuela is interesting.
If this was an attack on the deep state apparatus in for it.
I disagree with most of this statement. Bitcoin/hard money stops useless wars as the government cannot print to pay the war fighter.
it's the scope and duration of the wars that will be reduced. no more decade-plus meat grinders.
It will stop forever wars.
There might still be wars, but doesnβt it make it more expensive to keep on the forever wars?
But at some point it will make it a lot Β«harderΒ» or should i say Β«expensiveΒ»
Mobilizing personell to fight offensive wars on behalf of a nation is totaly different in 2026 vs. 1940/ 1800s 1600s etc. Partly because of the internet/comms/info spread. Partly because the money ainβt money anymore.
When bitcoin becomes widespread money, money becomes more money than money has ever been. When the tank is empty, itβs empty. Provable scarcity will make sure of this.
Might be wrong, letβs see
I'd tweet this by saying,
up till global Bitconization and fiat becomes completely Irrelevant and can no longer fund wars. After that point, they really have to pay to go to war.
What could be fixed is the size of the wars.
No more global wars funded with debt, only wars paid by what nations have in their treasuries.
No more never-ending wars.
They probably won't last as long as fiat wars, though.
How does a nation state hold Bitcoin? Who holds the keys? Bitcoin is for the people.
