If a pregnant woman in 2025 claimed she was a virgin and that the Holy Spirit put a baby inside her, would you believe it? Why or why not?
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No. But I also wouldn't buy it in ~6 BC either...
I might if he was later killed and then rose from the dead
20 years later she said he was but only his disciples saw it happen
In 2045? I’d assume there would be more verifiable evidence by then.
Either way, if the story became powerful enough and the values he preached led to success and prosperity, I’m sure it would affect the next 2000 years at least.
The evidence is problematic. It is a deterrent of faith. As a result, the leaders of this new religion destroyed all evidence. You have to believe through experience and divine inspiration. Otherwise you’re a lost lamb.
I disagree, but let’s say that’s true for the sake of this discussion. Jesus was just a regular man, born naturally, who died on the cross and was not resurrected.
He’s still the most impactful person of the last two millennia, his teachings still are relevant and important parts of our culture, and the Christian tradition should be carried on.
I very much agree with this.
God bless you friend.
Clearly was not just a man born naturally since his mother never got fucked.
Bandwagon fallacy. The most impactful musicians include cardi b and other retarded mumble rappers. That’s not proof that these are good musicians. And this is not a good argument for why we should continue following these teachings.
Bandwagon fallacy. Everyone watches porn so porn is good. Everyone likes Drake so he must have good music. Everyone takes vaccines so they must be safe and effective. I can go on and on.
Everyone does not watch porn, and porn is bad. Same for Drake and vaccines.
I’m trying to be polite and have a real discussion here but it’s pretty intellectually dishonest to say that Christianity is equivalent to porn, drake, and vaccines.
You can assess the goodness of something for yourself based on its history and its teachings. And you can even criticize the history of the Church while still acknowledging how culturally influential it was.
It’s hugely arrogant and stupid to assume everyone for two thousand years was just part of some “bandwagon fallacy”.
They would kill you for not believing that Jesus was magic.
Jesus was just a guy.
The Romans needed a reason to worship him so that their leaders could use it to manipulate them, so they made him magic.
But he was just a guy.
They copied half the mythology from what they knew about other religions.
Anyone can find enlightenment or become a spiritual teacher if they devote their life to it.
Doesn't require virgin birth or any other miracles to achieve.
Let’s grant your interpretation. Christianity still was a pillar of our culture for thousands of years, produced great good in society, has valuable teachings, and isn’t equivalent to watching pornography or listening to drake music.
You’re putting words in my mouth. Didn’t say they were equivalent. I used those as an example of the bandwagon fallacy. Your argument was that Christianity is good because Jesus was so impactful. I’m arguing that other things are more impactful than Jesus.
More people watch porn than worship Jesus. So porn is more impactful than Jesus but that doesn’t mean it’s good.
In other words, how impactful something is does not mean it is good or right. Your argument is wrong.
Lol where did I say equivalent. Look up bandwagon fallacy. How are you going to call me intellectually dishonest when you are arguing without understanding the terminology I’m using?
Also what good are you talking about? The world literally went backwards when Christianity spread. Science was abandoned for religion. The earth became the center of the universe again. Holy wars left and right. Christians killing each other trying to maintain control over the church. You’re completely misinformed.
Probably not. But if that baby grew up, came to a wedding that ran out of booze and turned water into wine to keep the party going - then yes.
I know a magician that can do this. Should we worship him?
Introduce us to the son of god
Close your eyes ask him to reveal himself. Do it harder until your brain hallucinates and shows you the truth.
I would not believe. I would verify. I would never exclude without checking. If people excluded based on previous experiences we would still be in caves.

Not sure
You better find out or you’ll go to hell forever
Artificial insemination
Virginity would be intact

I’m just saying it’s the only explanation that’s is plausible; if there was or is god(s) from other worlds if they can travel from another star system I’m sure they can figure out artificial insemination. To survive on earth without space suits you need to procreate with a human. I’m not saying this is what happened I’m just saying it’s the only possibility that seems plausible if we assume that gods/aliens are real and have visited earth.
Yeah I'm just playin' 😂🤝
I lol 😂
It’s all good
Nope. That's a lie, because she did the no pants dance with a guy. That was her decision, and that was that.
Mary was the only one who was a virgin, married to Joeseph, and had a birth with Messiah. Nobody else but her has that honor.
either that or mary was lying which is way more likely
What’s the deal being offered if I believe it? If it’s eternity in Heaven, I just might sign up.
I have a bridge to sell you
How much?
2 Bitcoin. It’s a great deal.
Sold!!
So like the doctor that did the artificial insemination was named Holy Spirit?
Believable these days, doctor's parents were probably some kind of new age hippie types back in the 60s
Imagine intentionally getting pregnant and going through all the suffering of labor without enjoying sex 😂
I don't want to imagine that.
A virgin paying child support


What if a whole bunch of charismatic people claimed it on her behalf after she died and wrote it down in writing so it became a myth and then the myth became accepted as a truth and people were willing to die for that truth. You’d be more likely to believe it then. If she told you straight up you’d tell her she was crazy. We all would. Even the hardcore Christians.
Mahdood woke up and chose religious violence 😄
The thought just popped into my head and I had to ask 😂
Suddenly everyone in the chat:


When shit hits the fan, they’re throwing all that love and forgiveness out the window 😂
No, here is something to verify.
“Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”
Isaiah 7:14 ESV
Now look up:
When did Isaiah live?
What is the oldest dated Isaiah scroll we found?
That’s not verifiable
Next time just copy and paste the note ID
Also, learn what sarcasm is
Ad hominem
And your arguments are appeals to authority 🤷♂️




