seeing prominent bitcoiners in the epstein emails is incredibly disappointing and fucked up
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The guy would have met Satoshi if he could.
but would Satoshi have taken the meeting...? ;)
Less than Bill Gates, for sure.
Just because someone uses money doesnβt make them a good or moral personβ¦.
How is it disappointing or fucked up ?
i think the point more is that something seemed off about some of the people who actually went right through with deals (eg blockstream) and that some of us, and i recall that you are not a civil debate partner, have been saying there's something amiss in some of the big name bitcoin companies, for, well, nearing on a decade in some cases.
i haven't followed, who?
Adam Back, Jeremy Rubin, Bryan Bishop, Matt Corallo, Vladimir van der Laan⦠the list keeps growing each day.
i was entirely unsurprised that he was a major source of funding for blockstream, personally.
oh yeah, it's one thing the bitcoiners in there, surely vitalik and friends have connections to it somehow? maybe via consensys?
Matt did nothing wrong!
The pedos at Core have nothing to fear, Jameson Lopp is here!
Blockstream cypherpunks fighting hard against the machine.
π€
Yes, but after reading all the responses to this, I agree with most of them. More dirt will probably come out as to why these people visited, but maybe by chance some only went and didn't get tricked? (hopefully)
We don't need any more neg press, so that sucks.
The funny thing is that my real Bitcoin journey can be credited to Whitney Webb... My gf sent me a link of her talking about her book and after searching some more of her interviews, I landed on the one where she was on TFTC - and have been learning and stacking as much as I can since! This too shall pass... I appreciate you and all the
podcasters/authors/analysts in this space. I know that good will prevail! π
Yeah
So thatβs gonna be this cycleβs bogeyman.
This explains core v30


I guess this only teaches that there are no such people as "prominent bitcoiners"
Would somebody please explicity spell out the absolute worst thing about the Jeffrey Epstein files' connection to bitcoin? Please make sure you flag the sensitive content, because the way some of you are talking it sounds particularly DAMNING for Core/Blockstream et all.
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probably bryan bishop seeking funding for his designer baby business
Seeking funding for experiments on mice is the worst thing you can name.
Actually, Adam Back probably going to the island is pretty fucking bad.
Luke was right
Bitcoin is for enemies.
Lmao
Prominent
β¦and you funding Core Devs?
Really? This kinda asset attracts all sorts of agencies and shady characters. We should be happy that it fuckin survived and the code is intact and open source.

That's stupid af. Just sell it.
This will resonate well with you as you were one of the CSAM excusers.
Coretards: Those bad Knotzis call us pedos because large OP_RETURN allow embedding CSAM in Bitcoin
3 Months Later: Coretards appear in Epstein files
You can't make this shit up.
Run Bitcoin Knots + BIP110 because Bitcoin is Freedom Money

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OP_RETURN doesnβt create CSAM, just like TCP/IP doesnβt.
Neutral protocols endure because they donβt encode ideology.
BIP-110 trades neutrality for moral theater and weakens censorship resistance.
Run it if you want, just donβt confuse a policy fork with Bitcoinβs most-work chain.
You are uneducated again. Read
BIP110 limits arbitrary data on Bitcoin.
ANY arbitrary data.
It reduces the abuse of the protocol and it reduces the moral and leagal risks that way.
Bitcoin is Freedom Money, not jpeg spam dump. Moron!

BIP-110
BIP-110: Reduced Data Temporary Softfork
Temporarily limit the size of data fields at the consensus level to protect Bitcoin
If they didn't notice that they lost this battle when Peter Todd put the entirety of BIP-444 in a transaction in a way that was BIP-444 compliant it's a good sign you're arguing with someone who can't listen to reason.
Just enjoy the airdropped fork, assuming you can dump it before the 51% attacks and zero market value make it completely zero bid. Big if.
Not saying anyone has to like the fact that this is how information works. But heads in sand rarely change the nature of reality.
At BEST it'd solve a legal problem -- but only one of their own making. The ethics aren't any different; contiguous or otherwise. And if bitcoin is about legality we've already lost the ethical battle anyway.
So you like what Peter Todd does?
BIP110 does not need to be perfect. It needs to reduce the abuse. There are different ways and aproaches to mitigate spam too.
Good luck. Run it. Run BIP 110 and be ready to die on your hill.
I don't insult you so stop with throwing morons around. It doesn't make your case any stronger.
I run it and I hope you open your eyes if you are not part of the Core cabal.
The point wasn't that I like Peter Todd. It was that the action laid bare the inaccuracy that BIP-110 can in any way prevent the hosting of CSAM on chain, making all of the moralistic crusading very clearly a bad faith argument.
I do happen to like what Knots was prior to this whole op_return drama, and would have liked to see it continue growing. Instead, it's been turned into a sideshow. Over the inclusion of a harm reduction measure that costs more to use than more harmful alternatives.
This whole charade has been an own goal of epic proportions, and an immense waste of resources and brainpower. Policy filters may not solve much entirely but with enough of a userbase they'd have made things too unpredictable for what some of the nonsense can tolerate. This forking meanwhile has ensured that this won't be an issue. Rather than fight spam, I expect the outcome of it to actually be more of the fillip garbage and utxo bloat. All while leaving anyone who wants to put abusive images on chain no less impeded than they were.
Well BIP110 reduces ALL arbitrary data.
There are ways to contain UTXO bloat.
If you fuck with little kids, sexually assault, and rape anyoneβ¦that is unforgivable in my book. If person does not own their body, there is no law at all.
Also depressing seeing how many influencers are carrying water for, simping for obviously corrupted people. People have been calling Adam Back out for months.
Which Bitcoiners are in the mails?
If youβre upset at what bitcoin has been used for, youβll probably hate fiat.
When you become a dad long you learn to spot the freaks from a mile away. You can spot them anywhere, not just bitcoin. OG bitcoiners overindex for fucked up shit because some came from a counterculture and got wealthy very young and very fast. I love bitcoin and my fellow bitcoiners but thats just the way it is. I, for one, am not surprised at all about all the depraved shit being disclosed. stay humble and stack sats (and ammo.)
also dint forget that some are just complete dorks and dont even realiza what they are saying or getting into: nevent1qqsvrjnjeagsyflpm2xn96krgcg50m28ggm7e6kv3n0ywxds5u0cgusyk3tg0
Why would someone realising the value of Bitcoin negate them from also being a blight on humanity? Bitcoin is for everyone.
this is the perspective with which to properly view BIP110
we are under attack
bullshit contiguous data on the block chain is the attack
Is luke always the good guy π
Money draws flies to the light.. Let's see what it goes.
Let's see WHERE it all goes.. Geez.. I gotta proof read more often..
Not being apologetic BUT⦠this is still coming from the government and I could see them throwing some legit pedos under the bus just to legitimize them falsely tainting the reputation of some people.
Which results in infighting in powerful circles, weakening them and thereby keeping the powerful in power.
I assume during this information war almost everything is plausible.
The problem with bitcoin being for both Friend AND Enemies, is that even the worse of the worse can use it.
@Len AKA The Lengendβ‘ @npub1w9dl...56ya
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Kill your heroes...
