Signal's president claimed it takes billions to replicate the availability and reliability of "hyperscalers" (AWS/Google/Microsoft/Cloudfare) that Signal uses. #chatmail and #deltachat are about disproving this claim by 1) making relays super cheap (DONE) 2) enabling chat profiles to use multiple relays redundantly (WIP) 3) distributing relay knowledge among chatters (TBD). Fat servers, corporate overlords and billionaires: not needed and better to not exist for a convivial e2ee future :)
Our project is one of constant exit planning and circumvention considerations ... as times and tech are getting more shitty. We don't bet on a single basket, and not a single state or jurisdiction, and certainly not AWS/Google/Microsoft US clouds which run #Signal servers. No single hoster, platform or language (we do a lot of Rust, granted) and no single device or vendor. At #chatmail protocol levels we regard nothing as holy, and look for simplicity and robustness, and convivial community 🖤 image
We are aware of roskomnadzor just having ramped up their blocking efforts in #russia against #deltachat 's default onboarding chatmail relay. Signal, Whatsapp are degraded/blocked for a longer time already. 1) Delta Chat has first class shadow-socks proxy support (try ss:// links you can find ... Delta has management-proxy UX) 2) many other chatmail relays work fine and inter-chatmail/email server traffic continues unimpeded 3) if you can help with analyzing please drop into our DMs.
Believe it or not: #deltachat is growing audio/video calls starting with the currently rolling 2.22 releases ... A few people already had two hour long stable calls :) Calls are an experimental option while we continue to work on reliability, UX/UI revisions, and configuration of TURN servers on #chatmail relays and in clients. We want calls to reliably work across all major platforms, networks and phones, including #UbuntuTouch Feedback and debugging happens at
Good news! It's getting harder to keep track of new #chatmail relays :) Recently several public relays were added to the list, in Warsaw, Helsinki, Romania and Barcelona.🧡 If you have #deltachat installed on mobile, you can go to any chatmail relay website in the list and click on a link there to create a chat profile. It's wonderful to hear about collectives setting up chat infrastructure like the recent from @npub1hmel...pmuk and @npub1pdcu...a7av
Not taking Venture Capital money means: - No pressure to maximize monetization of usage (for every million of VC funding you need to find ~100+ Million in value later). - No prioritization of growing fast with PR campaigns that promise the moon and stumble on the ground - No billionaire who ultimately profits Instead, we seek public funding and private contributions for #chatmail #deltachat and #webxdc developments. Thanks to everyone who is helping and already test-driving things :) image
There is no single central #Signal server. Signal uses #AWS cloud, plus Google Cloud, Microsoft Cloud and Cloudflare, all under US legislation. If any of these clouds goes down or becomes otherwise problematic, chatting degrades or fails. With #deltachat you can choose #chatmail relays ( ) which distributes the risk across a wider network. We are currently working on the multi-transport feature to finally remove any central point of chat failure
A few of us are going to visit our neighboring project in federated messaging, the @The Matrix.org Foundation conference in Strasbourg today. The two projects are rather different architecturally, funding-wise etc but we remain ready and interested for discussions around common concerns and general exchange of what's happening :) For those curious, here is a panel discussion from the Elevate festival in Graz 2018 And a later discussion with @Matthew Hodgson
#deltachat has reliable and audited end-to-end encryption but reliable message delivery is equally crucial in times of shutdowns and increasing Internet fragmentation. #chatmail relays are more reliable and faster than classic email servers but they may still fail, leaving users stranded. The recent rollout of V2 releases not only hardened end-to-end encryption but aims for chat profiles to use multiple relays in the future, removing a common point of failure in decentralized private messaging.
What an announcement from #Telegram owner Pawel Durov! To provide just a few critical notes, he - makes believe he is just a commoner, and not the billionaire owner of one of the largest message, media and metadata *cleartext* databases on earth - skips over Global Warming - refers to "fathers and forefathers" of the Internet ... apparently never heard of Radia Perlman, Margaret Hamilton or Ada Lovelace? - conveniently excludes Russia and its authoritarian politics from his critique etc. image