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Wow. 40 contributors and not one will call out the BS happening at core.

Quote it or you just made this up

funny how you didn't name the guy who manages bitcoin knots there's like peter wiule, and lukedash-jr, and then, idk who the rest of you are because i never hear about you funny that

The beauty of open source is you can verify @npub1j5mp...sd5c ‘s claims very easily. Go have a look at the knots repo. And if you’re a tech person, look at the commits to see what @Luke Dashjr and/or others have been contributing to Knots. (And while you’re at it, do the same on Core from time to time.) Then decide which software suits YOU best. There are no silver bullets though. It’s trade-offs all the way down. Adjust your risk level accordingly. nevent1qqswaa5vpsyp29258n6radga5ey0q88apnyaa9uqst7fvzcuqjzeynqpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmql09nc2

That doesn't mean core is better than knots. Run Bitcoin knots. That's it

"Bitcoin Knots has more contributors than Bitcoin Core" Since Knots is a fork of Core, this is just so by definition. It looks to me as if you mean to imply someone claimed that Knots has more 'maintainers'; but realized that would have been too obvious of a strawman.

Are you contributing for a monetary revolution or sth else? Where are strong characters who oppose the Todds and Lopps within Core?🤔

👀

Liar

It seems so even if that one person from knots is very competent we can't afford to trust a single individual (even if he is among the best and most competent that can be found around) 🤷‍♂️

When Rome was an empire, the saying was qui bono? Who benefits? Who benefits when spam is forced on the nodes by your altruistic devs? I’ll stick with the one developer whose interests align with Satoshi’s vision, a monetary network.

Thanks. I’m running knots.

All those Core maintainers. All those eyes. Yet it took someone outside the club to call out what was happening. Changes were being made without community input. People raising questions were being silenced or banned. They won’t censor spam, but they’ll censor dissent. This isn’t about OP_RETURN. It’s about behavior. About acting like Core is Bitcoin, instead of Bitcoin being the people. One person can slip in changes while everyone else stays quiet, and we’re told to trust the process. That’s not decentralization. That’s capture with better PR.

Government has way more employees than any bitcoin project, so we should trust the US dollar over Bitcoin. 🤡

I would still rather trust this one person who appears to understand what bitcoin is for and what makes it unique, than a group who appears to have been compromised, either ideologically or financially, to introduce a change that is clearly against the long term interests of bitcoin.

Good points. Even if you agree with knots, a single developer pushing to master and issuing releases with no review is insane. I don’t want to completely trust one guy.

One-man forks in Bitcoin? Just crypto's version of a dictatorship. Stick with the community chaos. ⛏️

tl;dr Bitcoin Knots code review be like:

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Why don’t we have more options?

Isn’t knots like 99% core with just a few extra/changed lines of code? Also with it being open source isn’t it likely that it’s been reviewed by many people at home?

Interesting read, I haven’t checked but heard they are 99% the same, what is the difference between knots and core then?

True, and why we are here ? Because Knots seems to suit better nodes values, not core. Solution : listen also nodes owners and try to be "open" to some knots argues. And stop saying everybody are wrong we have the ultimate truth. There is no smoke without fire. #btc4ever

I like running knots!

Now go diff the consensus code in core and knots and post the results

Please add a Lightning wallet; I can’t zap this ⚡️

Jury is out on this one… but collectivism isn’t a path to freedom. Spam sounds like a bad idea. 👎

You go to war with the army you have, not the army you’d like.

And yet knots adoption is growing rapidly. This would suggest a problem or distrust with core, despite your arguments. Logical reasoning is fine, but it's only a small part of the real world.

This could be a good thing. Martin Luther was the solo dissenting voice against the Catholic Church at the time, and single handedly started the Reformation. I guess time will tell.

"More devs means higher quality dickbutt database, knots only has one dev"

Bitcoin does its own thing. Bitcoin doesn’t care.

I will not let rubbish in my node, running Knots… Bitcoin is for accounting, not VMs and JPEG…

Good read. One of the reasons why I haven't rushed to make Libre Relay easier to install, e.g. with binary releases, step-by-step docs, etc. is that it's just a one man proof-of-concept/experiment and people probably shouldn't be running it on a big scale. If it were to be widely used, I'd want more eyes on it first. And really, Core is perfectly goodfor 99% of users.

An interesting thread follows this one:

Booooooooooooooo! I would throw a tomato at you if I could!

And yet knots has the same amount of people running it as are running core v29. Bitcoiners are built to go all the way out on the risk curve if they believe in something.

I have been seeing some claims that “Bitcoin is part of the modern financial system,” that “Bitcoin is just another form of currency like the dollar,” and that “Bitcoin has more decentralization than the dollar.” The U.S. dollar is managed by the Federal Reserve System, with its 12 regional banks and a Board of Governors consisting of 7 members, alongside thousands of Treasury employees as historical contributors. The dollar’s operations are published on federalreserve.gov and treasury.gov. Dollar issuances are authorized by the Federal Open Market Committee, consisting of the Board of Governors and select regional bank presidents, with oversight from Congress and other federal entities. Releases of new currency or economic data are reviewed and endorsed by this authoritative community. The dollar’s framework operates under the full faith and credit of the U.S. government, as a fiat currency governed by federal law since the gold standard ended in 1971. Bitcoin is a decentralized offshoot of traditional currency systems, launched by an anonymous entity known as Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin appears to be maintained by a sprawling, uncoordinated network of miners and developers, pushing changes to its blockchain without centralized oversight. Bitcoin’s blockchain consists of the original decentralized ledger modified with a sprawling set of over 900,000 blocks as of May 2025. This same leaderless consensus mechanism issues new blocks and transactions. There is no indication that any established authority has ever contributed oversight or stability directly to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not endorsed by the Federal Reserve or the Treasury. So, let’s set the record straight: the dollar, with its centralized, accountable management, clearly outshines Bitcoin’s haphazard, unendorsed experiment. @jack @npub1j5mp...sd5c @Bitcoin Mechanic nevent1qqswaa5vpsyp29258n6radga5ey0q88apnyaa9uqst7fvzcuqjzeynqpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmql09nc2