i am focused on building out nostr because it has a real chance to obsolete facebook, tiktok, whatsapp, telegram, and x
somehow this has become a contrarian view, which is fine, go big or go home
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"i have a dream"
- martin odell king jr.
We need a one click install relay. It does not need to be fancy, but it needs to work in 90% of the environments it is tried. With well thought out requirements and preferably in platform repositories. It needs to be uniform across platforms and have a channel that allows support at a non technical level.
The goal is to get as many socially minded people to install it as possible, yet still keep it open and not seen as aligned with any political or other division. Ideally it would be seen as a platform where ideas and discussions can cross those boundaries. Maybe it is a "boomer dream" but I miss those early days of twitter and Facebook when civil discussions and shared ideas were the norm.
Letβs go BIG
I even see it as the future of accounts and unlocking websites... So nice to go to a site and use a browser extension to sign in and be able to pay a lightning invoice same way - no credit card numbers to enter etc...
Digital Identity in a decentralized way β€οΈ
Every major shift looks contrarian right before it becomes obvious. Nostr isnβt competing with apps, itβs replacing the entire model.Centralized platforms had their run Nostr is where the next decade gets built.
Bien π tenemos que seguir construyendo en nostr
LFG π
I see 2 futures :
- back to stone age after we nuke ourselves, or
- digital and decentralized
The 3rd Orwellian one is not an option.
Open platforms are like forests, closed like gardens. It takes much more time for a forest to grow naturally, but once it does, it subsumes every garden, because gardens need constant upkeep.
Unless their permaculture gardens, but then Nostr is more like a permaculture garden than the normie garden.
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> Facebook, TikTok, whatsapp
These are the most boring use cases
Fuk yeah man!
their empires will fall
Utopia and Keet have a chance, too. Nostr needs in P2P!
Yes, but when I'm onboarding people, I hope they stay. And I notice they all find it more secure if they're on a central platform, which of course isn't the case. But just like your own bank, you now manage your N-SEC within the protocol. And you determine the algorithm, everything you want to see and don't want to see. So it takes a lot of work to understand what's being built. And unfortunately, people choose the easy way out and blindly follow the people who shout, "Don't build, don't want to learn, and don't want to change." And I don't see any specific help either. Some developers are seriously on their own. And "Don't trust verify" is becoming an old saying. People are simply no longer willing to do the work or waste their energy. And it's becoming increasingly difficult to recruit and select good people. π«‘π§‘ Just my 2 Sats ( Bπ)
The load looks crazy and clients arent reliable. For an outsider that is, lets say testing it starting from newbie view and tech uneducated.
People with no vision for the future get uneasy when they see others challenging the status quo because they are afraid of becoming obsolete. Their ego doesnβt allow them to consider that you see something they havenβt.
I would say it's their envy, not their ego.
Envy is surely part of it too, and no doubt ignorance too. But for some (many?) ego drives their insistence on not being βwrong.β
All in Nostr. Best tech wins π«‘π§‘π½π
I think the sticky product at X is spaces. If Nest can create a quality experience I think we can chip away at market share. I havenβt been on X in 3 years. And thatβs the thing I miss the most.
Totally agree, and I think starting at the community scale we can do a better job than centralized social networks. Working on a community digital board with feed, marketplace, fundraising, business services and calendar.
Yes. Nostr and bitcoin only is the way. The fiat system with their walled gardens and censorship will drive people mad and forster further real bitcoin and nostr adoption over time. Adopting bitcoin and nostr now will give you a head start. Its still early but the development is mindblowingly fast. While fiat is burning, bitcoin is churning.. Tick tock next block. Tick tock next note. Love it
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Amazon too
Don't forget Nostr-based marketplaces!
That's why I'm here too. On paper it is a longshot.
Unless we win.
Letβs go
Let's go πͺ but we need to identify and rally around the critical gaps
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Nostrs killer app is coordinating decentralized coinjoins. Not chatting.
I'm with it, let's go, but how do we organize around the gaps? Anybody have any thoughts on this?
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Fight Fight Fight πππ»π
It took about 4 years for Facebook to surpass MySpace in a time when algorithms were almost non existent. Transitioning addicted users to nostr will take time π«‘
Ride or die
Why does Thomas from PubKey shit talk about Nostr?
I thought, he was one of us π€·ββοΈ
Some people will always love their oppressors
Similar here, I just think replacing all of this and LinkedIn and GitHub is achievable by well-designed communities with easy deployment and a credible exit.
Most of the real value is trapped in fiat marketplaces and platforms of collaboration (especially around software).
Unstoppable reputation and authentic connections in interoperable high-trust and high-signal private groups is the new internet in my book.
We've replaced most services already, which is amazing.
I think the two biggest targets now is Telegram and YouTube. Telegram is probably the easiest, but it's a massive task. Telegram has great performance, but their practices and how they never help anyone who get their accounts taken over, makes them deserve to be replaced.
YouTube is the biggest challenge, requires some innovation on architecture, distribution, etc.
Youtube is the hardes one to replace? why is that?
YouTube would be bankrupt in a few hours without ads.
They allow everyone on Earth to upload and serve 8K videos.
They store insane amount of data and transcode everything in many sizes.
We need some innovations to build this and critical mass of users (providing compute and storage).
yes
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All on here would agree. Itβs those that arenβt that need to be shown
So how do we do that?
I believe Facebook is already obsolete. YouTube and Instagram users have been asking for something new for a long time because these social networks have been increasing their rules and restrictions.
SWING FOR THE FENCES
How come it's become contrarian view?
Iβm with you over here in Louisiana.
Nostr will win π
No doubt, this is why I find it very interesting
Itβs caught my attention in a major way
I am committed as well
Would love to hear you explain this in more detail, and learn from you
Will DM re a podcast invite
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This is also why you will only find @FLASH on Nostr and nowhere else.
Agreed!
How about Google Maps to be replaced ? Itβs kind of social network between people and places on the map, and is centralised as well.
My two cents for getting more traction.
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