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While I agree with the sentiment of nostr services being down due to CF outage (i'm also guilty of that for some nostr.net services) the fact is infrastructure costs money and if you are not paying for it someone else is. So complaining that the free infrastructure you consume all the time and never once blink to think its costing someone else to run that is not gonna bring much change. I've only recently put some of the web gateways behind CF because they are getting hammered by traffic. Could I've solved it differently? Sure, but I'm losing money on it already, spending more time and using more resources for it was just not the top choice. CF gets used this much because it has disproportionate benefits compared to evrything else, even om a free tier. And its gonna stay that way until the individuals start figuring out that everything you click, consume or post on the internet has intrinsic cost. Its small on per unit basis, but it stacks up with even the amount of users nostr has, let alone when things really hit scale. So either start rethinking your spending habits for everything you consume online or stfu:)

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Preach. I've been running web forums for over two decades and most have been a labor of love. Any time I get complaints, I find people are quick to STFU when you offer them the ability to help subsidize the costs. Turns out more people just want handouts even in the digital realm.
I agree to some extent. But changing people's spending habits, so they are willing to pay voluntarily, requires constant education and professional approach to fundraising. Providing services for free and complaining that people are using them is not the way imho. The most supported v4v podcasts are beating the v4v drum ad nauseam. People need to be reminded constantly about it. It's just how it works.
I have said this and I will say it again; people are not just lazy or ignorant, the service is simply not valuable enough, if anything, people welcome not being able to use social media, they use it for the same reason they eat cheap fast food; they can't afford what they really want; IRL quality experiences and relationships. No one will pay to scroll, nor they should.
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While I agree with the sentiment of nostr services being down due to CF outage (i'm also guilty of that for some nostr.net services) the fact is infrastructure costs money and if you are not paying for it someone else is. So complaining that the free infrastructure you consume all the time and never once blink to think its costing someone else to run that is not gonna bring much change. I've only recently put some of the web gateways behind CF because they are getting hammered by traffic. Could I've solved it differently? Sure, but I'm losing money on it already, spending more time and using more resources for it was just not the top choice. CF gets used this much because it has disproportionate benefits compared to evrything else, even om a free tier. And its gonna stay that way until the individuals start figuring out that everything you click, consume or post on the internet has intrinsic cost. Its small on per unit basis, but it stacks up with even the amount of users nostr has, let alone when things really hit scale. So either start rethinking your spending habits for everything you consume online or stfu:)
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